tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post2825342598131871514..comments2023-10-25T16:50:19.731+01:00Comments on JABS Loonies - Justice, Awareness, Basic Support and Mind Blowing Stupidity: John Scudamore - what a fucking arseholeBeckyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03802457584729144048noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-72183243111776150682012-04-28T12:57:48.777+01:002012-04-28T12:57:48.777+01:00"While DDT is nasty stuff, it's not a vir..."While DDT is nasty stuff, it's not a virus. It's a synthetic chemical. It cannot cause polio, because (are you keeping up here Scudamore?) IT'S NOT A FUCKING VIRUS."<br /><br />This is not an argument until you define what "cause" means - and no sensible definition of it will assist you here. <br /><br />I have no idea if DDT causes or does not cause polio, nor is whether it does or not relevant to what I'm about to say - my claim is that your defence is idiotic and adds nothing whatsoever to the debate. And, unfortunately, I'm not your typical defender of these theories, I'm not an scientifically ignorant dreamer with tattoos and nose rings who goes on about global warming, but in fact have a PhD in engineering. <br /><br />You really need to understand that the body is a SYSTEM, with many interconnecting elements and sub-systems and levels of causality, and that this kind of simplistic reasoning when analysing systems (my job) is utterly useless. <br /><br />Has it occurred to you that DDT might bring about a condition that makes people susceptible to the polio virus who would not have been otherwise?<br /><br />If someone is an alcoholic and their liver function falls dramatically and so they die from a cut while chopping vegetables because the liver does not make enough clotting proteins, say, then according to your argument the alcoholism did not cause the death right? <br /><br />The fact that it created an environment in which an otherwise harmful cut causes death is not relevant - alcoholism cannot be said to "cause" this death from bleeding because it is "not a fucking knife"? This is your position right?<br /><br />Or imagine I put petrol instead of diesel in my car because my mate swapped around the nozzles in the petrol station and then the petrol clogged one of the parts built for diesel.<br /><br />By your argument, my friend did not cause the part to fail and my car to stop moving because "he is not fucking petrol". <br /><br />Do you agree with these positions? If not why not? And how does your response sit with your initial argument?Kid Salamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032699716171669184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-21227577683011087612012-01-06T21:02:31.733+00:002012-01-06T21:02:31.733+00:00Nothing informed about Scienceblogs - load of trip...Nothing informed about Scienceblogs - load of tripe.Amanti Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12441134397493999488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-53825192338703895442011-11-21T16:16:37.043+00:002011-11-21T16:16:37.043+00:00http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/09/mark_bla...http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/09/mark_blaxill_and_dan_olmsted_polio.php<br /><br />http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/09/mark_blaxill_and_dan_olmsted_merrily_con.php<br /><br />...and an informed look as to why Olmsted and Blaxhill are spouting what can only politely be termed as "shit".Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802457584729144048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-37906985335915112802011-09-21T14:06:09.300+01:002011-09-21T14:06:09.300+01:00http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/09/the-age-of-poli...http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/09/the-age-of-polio-how-an-old-virus-and-new-toxins-triggered-a-man-made-epidemic.htmlAmanti Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12441134397493999488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-12354451660316900352009-04-03T11:21:00.000+01:002009-04-03T11:21:00.000+01:00A first class wackaloon.(You really do need to see...A first class wackaloon.<BR/><BR/>(You really do need to see the latest magazine: "Medical Wackaloon Monthly" available at:<BR/><BR/>http://hellsnewsstand.blogspot.com/2009/03/medical-wackaloon-monthly.html<BR/><BR/>Even using Wikipedia for research it would appear that DDT was """First synthesized in 1874, DDT's insecticidal properties were not discovered until 1939""".<BR/><BR/>And polio has been around for how long exactly ? I am no medical historian but I reckon it was well before 1939.<BR/><BR/>So it would indeed appear that Scudamore is a fucking arsehole. QED.John Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222702865177070667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-67368681867228255842009-04-03T06:10:00.000+01:002009-04-03T06:10:00.000+01:00I like the way they make these ridiculous assertio...I like the way they make these ridiculous assertions as if they must be true, not even bothering with a link to whale.to.<BR/><BR/>Viruses, pesticides, diseases, inflammation, parasites, these people couldn't care less about the differences, their thinking is so muddled they don't even have a coherent set of beliefs, besides "Vaccination is bad".Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552709502481368673noreply@blogger.com