tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post5449573420287717513..comments2023-10-25T16:50:19.731+01:00Comments on JABS Loonies - Justice, Awareness, Basic Support and Mind Blowing Stupidity: Cybertiger is a loserBeckyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03802457584729144048noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-81053046196335674862009-02-11T19:18:00.000+00:002009-02-11T19:18:00.000+00:00Spreading fear in a gullible populace drove the Am...Spreading fear in a gullible populace drove the American taxpayer to fund the ugly wars on Serbia, [.,.] The American military-industrial-complex were thrilled. <BR/><BR/>Just focusing on Serbia, but ask the Croatians, the Bosnians, or the Albanians who lived through the 1990s and you'll meet many thrilled people.I am so wisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10284985412462694814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-17856904098179632582009-02-09T11:24:00.000+00:002009-02-09T11:24:00.000+00:00Back on the JABS site under a new name (Sandford)....Back on the JABS site under a new name (Sandford).<BR/><BR/>Let's see how long my post stays up.<BR/><BR/>http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3656John Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222702865177070667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-10087856664217867012009-02-09T11:11:00.000+00:002009-02-09T11:11:00.000+00:00I just dipped my toes into the cesspool of stupidi...I just dipped my toes into the cesspool of stupidity that constitutes JABS. (This is a rare occurrence as I normally have you to do this for me !).<BR/><BR/>Not a dicky bird about the STs article on Wakefield.<BR/><BR/>(Apart from the open letter on the front page referring to Wakefield as an "excellent doctor". Ho ho ho. Methinks perhaps not.).<BR/><BR/>One wonders at their reluctance to embrace the facts that their hero invented it all in pursuit of his personal agenda.John Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222702865177070667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-26722801457200426262009-02-09T09:52:00.000+00:002009-02-09T09:52:00.000+00:00BeckyI only just picked this up (Monday morning). ...Becky<BR/><BR/>I only just picked this up (Monday morning). Feel free to do what you want with it if you think it is useful in any way.<BR/><BR/>I was going to suggest that you might have gone into hibernation !<BR/><BR/>Especially given the Sunday Times article yesterday.John Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222702865177070667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-23212896701228142422009-02-06T18:16:00.000+00:002009-02-06T18:16:00.000+00:00John H & DT - would you mind if I incorporated...John H & DT - would you mind if I incorporated your comments into a post over the weekend?Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802457584729144048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-91524873018205858182009-02-06T17:14:00.000+00:002009-02-06T17:14:00.000+00:00Good post DT.You could argue that:1) so is hemlock...Good post DT.<BR/><BR/>You could argue that:<BR/><BR/>1) so is hemlock but it will kill you. To paraphrase a lady contributor "Suba is a twat" <BR/>2) so there is a causal relationship between taking echinacea and alcoholism is there because there is certainly a correlation in the US Indian population<BR/>3) maybe the kids got homeopathic doses of echinacea - the less they got the more it would affect them (err maybe)<BR/>4) ditto. As that lady constantly says "John Stone is a twat" as well.<BR/>5)words fail me - but you are perfectly right.<BR/>6) ask Truthseeker to name the millions who died from conventional medicine (OK a tough task, just name what they died from then). As a certain lady says "TruthSeeker is a twat<BR/><BR/>Lucky for me I could just paste "twat" in otherwise I would have been typing for hours.John Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222702865177070667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-35593214507799112682009-02-05T15:24:00.000+00:002009-02-05T15:24:00.000+00:00I saw that and was going to do a post on it... It...I saw that and was going to do a post on it... It's the bleating when they hear "here's your argument, but with MMR replaced with Echinacea - look how ridiculous you actually sound" that makes it funny...Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802457584729144048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-11805290281466043492009-02-05T11:33:00.000+00:002009-02-05T11:33:00.000+00:00The "natural ig good" mantra is extending to even ...The "natural ig good" mantra is extending to even more silly heights on the Jabbers forum.<BR/><BR/>One poster alerted them to an article linking echinacea with autism. Now there appears to be no evidence for this (echinacea can alter bowel flora, so maybe that just <I>might</I> alter permeability, so maybe the jabbers should be worried.....?).<BR/><BR/>But instead of countering the hypothesis with a bit of science based critical analysis and common sense, the jabbers have taken the line of:<BR/><BR/>1) Echinacea is natural! So it is obviously harmless! (Suba)<BR/>2) North American Indians use echinacea and I haven't heard they have rates of autism of 1:150 (Suba again, Lola and Aasa)<BR/>3) No-one would give kids echinacea (John Stone, ignoring the fact that plenty would, and the OP specifically talked of the transmissability in breast milk)<BR/>4) I never gave my son echinacea, so it cannot have caused his autism (John Stone again)<BR/>5) Remember that it is only vaccines that cause autism, nothing else could possibly do it! (actually that's not in this particular thread, but that's what they think)<BR/>6) But herbs harm people less than conventional treatments which kill millions of people (Truthseeker)<BR/><BR/>The fallacious and mind-numbingly stupid and predictable arguments they are trotting out has quite put me off my lunch. All we need now is for Cyberpussy to tell us how Roy Meadows is embroiled in all of this.DThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07045512926964152177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-10846895066595864292009-02-04T08:48:00.000+00:002009-02-04T08:48:00.000+00:00It's an odd mix. On JABS there have been several ...It's an odd mix. On JABS there have been several outbreaks of racism, homophobia etc, that I'd usually associate with the far right - but then there's the usual "oh, natural is far better, I hug trees" that I'd associate with the liberal left... Where the conspiracy theorists lie is beyond me. Frankly, I'd put most of them down as card carrying Monster Raving Loonies.Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802457584729144048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-39242784213039253932009-02-04T04:39:00.000+00:002009-02-04T04:39:00.000+00:00If you are going to say that woosters are right wi...If you are going to say that woosters are right wing you should provide some evidence. A lot of the alt-med types are hippy lefties-whether they could actually find their way to the polling station to vote is another matter.<BR/><BR/>In the US the anti-vaxers seem to be an unholy alliance of right wing libertarian types that see mass vaccination as a plot by big government and the loony left who see it as a profit making venture for Big Pharma. Personally I don't see it as having any particular political orientation.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552709502481368673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-76761572264513213282009-02-04T02:58:00.000+00:002009-02-04T02:58:00.000+00:00Dr. Mark Struthers in the BMJhttp://www.bmj.com/cg...Dr. Mark Struthers in the BMJ<BR/><BR/>http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/327/7420/889-c#40265<BR/><BR/>http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/329/7474/1110#83974<BR/><BR/>http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/325/7371/1026#26696<BR/><BR/>Certainly not right wing.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552709502481368673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-42362776778701285602009-02-03T21:44:00.000+00:002009-02-03T21:44:00.000+00:00BeckyTwo whole days without a wallow in the cesspi...Becky<BR/><BR/>Two whole days without a wallow in the cesspit of jabbophobia.<BR/><BR/>Must be a record.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Many Legged One<BR/><BR/>I never got the impression that Tiddles was even vaguely left wing. I might be wrong (about him that is - not my impressions).<BR/><BR/>There is a curious tendency for wooists, jabbophobes and quackophiles to embrace right wing politics. I put it down to an absence of critical thought.<BR/><BR/>Of course Hitler was pretty woo-oriented - vegetablist, mystical etc.<BR/><BR/>(Two Godwins in less than five posts - Result).John Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222702865177070667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-31289103743345330162009-02-02T17:14:00.000+00:002009-02-02T17:14:00.000+00:00John HI think Dr.Tiddles is a left winger.He is al...John H<BR/>I think Dr.Tiddles is a left winger.<BR/><BR/>He is also careful enough to be agnostic about controversial medical subjects. He appears to be an AIDS denier but when questioned, he simply says he doesn't know.<BR/><BR/>Same with controverial alt-med treatments, he won't recommend them but then allows that maybe they work and medicine doesn't know everything.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552709502481368673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-4078074853596577172009-02-02T15:52:00.000+00:002009-02-02T15:52:00.000+00:00Whenever I hear mental medicos spouting some right...Whenever I hear mental medicos spouting some right wing rubbish I am always reminded that the most enthusiastic membership uptake of the Nazi party in the early 30's was amongst the German medical profession.<BR/><BR/>How about that for use of Godwins law. Managed to slur an entire profession at one go.John Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222702865177070667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-20243137178004693592009-02-02T09:30:00.000+00:002009-02-02T09:30:00.000+00:00Indeed. It'd be very interesting to know what he ...Indeed. It'd be very interesting to know what he actually says to his patients about M, M and R... Or AIDS, or child abuse, or anything else he has, shall we say, less than conventional views on...Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802457584729144048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4154548573349610503.post-77502554345714996172009-02-02T04:23:00.000+00:002009-02-02T04:23:00.000+00:00You are only at risk of being struck off if you ki...You are only at risk of being struck off if you kill your patients or sleep with them. If Dr. Struthers is as obnoxious as his Cybertiddles alter ego then I don't imagine any of his patients want to sleep with him.<BR/><BR/>I suspect he is probably a fairly conservative middle of the road doctor-so he probably doesn't kill any more than the usual number of patients.<BR/><BR/>I'd say the chances of him being struck off are pretty low.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552709502481368673noreply@blogger.com