Tuesday 26 July 2011

John Stone, conspiracy theorist

John "Cock" Stone has posted another splendid comment on Age of Autism. In response to this;

Personally, I no longer believe this is about the personal integrity of Brian Deer .. nor .. the veracity of all Deer has written or alleged…

Stone replies:

It was always about the British establishment (and whoever lay behind them) being prepared to allow his extravagant and what should have been highly embarrassing performance to continue unimpeded.

The British Establishment and whoever lay behind them?

Come on then John, who's behind the British Establishment? The Bilderberg Group? The New World Order? The Illuminati? David Icke's Lizard People?

He runs further away from the sane/mental divide every time he puts finger to keyboard.

Friday 22 July 2011

AoA Comment of the Day

From Benedetta - one of Age of Autism's regular commenters:

I am very glad that Fox News is honest and not part of Murdoch's empire. They have given both sides of the vaccine issue. They have even at times been highly critical of the judgment of the courts involving word games--- of don't cause autism but autism like symptoms.

It is a good thing because watching the news or semi- news shows that I can stand are becoming rather rare. I don't watch CNN because of Anderson Cooper, and I don't watch the morning show that has Matt Laur smug smile either.

So that leaves about only Fox News.


Ha, ha, and ha again. From Wikipedia:

Fox Broadcasting Company, commonly referred to as simply Fox (and stylized as FOX), is an American commercial broadcasting television network owned by Fox Entertainment Group, part of Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation.


You get a better class of moron at AoA, I have to say.

Age of Autism tries to smear Brian Deer. Again.



The head-the-balls over at Age of Autism have been trying to smear Brian Deer for years now, because he's the journalist who's been responsible for bringing to light Andrew Wakefield's lies and deceit in well researched articels for the BMJ and The Sunday Times. The trouble is (for AoA) that they've never been able to demonstrate that anything Mr Deer has written has been false. They've tried to misrepresent what he's written, accusing him of accusing Wakefield of falsifying medical records - which he didn't, he showed that he'd misrepresented the records he'd seen, and in some cases simply made up information which went into his study in order to back up his potentially lucrative theory.

They've now taken a new tack - trying to imply that Mr Deer is involved in some kind of shady journalistic practices, simply because the paper that published his work (not his employer - Mr Deer is a freelance writer and reporter) is owned by the same company which owned the News Of The World, the newspaper recently closed down by News International in the wake of phone hacking allegations / revelations. To this end, they[AoA]'ve put up two blog posts, entitled:

"An Elaborate Fraud, Part 1: In Which a Murdoch Reporter Deceives the Mother of a Severely Autistic Child" and

"An Elaborate Fraud, Part 2: In Which a Murdoch Newspaper’s Deceptive Tactics Infect the British Medical Journal"

and one entitled:

When Does a "Conspiracy Theory" Become a "Conspiracy Fact"?

Let's look at the "Elaborate Fraud" story. Here's part 1.

The piece is written by Dan Olmsted - I'm a little surprised that he's writing this, as he's generally a supporter of the Mercury-Autism link, rather than MMR, but hey, as Orac says, it's always the vaccines - and starts with a short explanation of the BMJ's accusation that Wakefield had committed an elaborate fraud with his initial study on the MMR vaccine.

It explains some of Mr Deer's methods, including:

Deer identified and interviewed parents of some of the children in the anonymous Lancet case series, describing what he said were significant disparities. "I traveled to the family home, 80 miles northeast of London, to hear about child 2 from his mother," Deer wrote of one interview. The child had severe autism and gut problems that she blamed on the MMR.

All well and good so far. But wait, there's apparently a problem.

What Deer did not say in the BMJ article is that he had lied to the mother about his identity, claiming to be someone named "Brian Lawrence" (his middle name). Deer had written a number of critical articles about parents' claims of vaccine injury, and if he gave his real name, he doubtless feared, Child 2's mother would not agree to talk to him. Once she checked his blog, she would be more likely to kick him out of the family home than sit still for what turned into a six-hour inquisition.

OK, so the name "Brian Deer" is very well known among the anti-vax community - Olmsted's quite right. The mother of Child 2 probably wouldn't have agreed to the interview had he given his real name, so he gave a modified version of his real name. If Child 2's mother didn't realise she was talking to Brian Deer, she'd be more likely to talk to him and more likely to set the facts as she saw them out accurately and without bias.

However, yes, Brian Deer, an award winning investigative journalist, researching a story that needed to be as objective as possible, to get the raw facts as accurately as possible, and which might well expose a huge fraud which had put at risk the health of the nation's (and indeed the world's) children, gave a slightly altered version of his name and used a Yahoo email account when talking, openly, for six hours, in the comfort of her own home, to one of the key witnesses in the story. Yes, six hours. Olmsted now describes this as an "inquisition". Yes, it's a deceit, but one that needed to happen in order to get the accurate raw facts of the story.

Now, because this story was destined for the Sunday Times, Olmsted brings up the point about phone hacking, implying somehow that Deer's use of a "fake" name is somehow equivalent.

The Sunday Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch, part of the News International division that has come under a Watergate-size cloud in England for its newsgathering tactics – fraudulently obtaining confidential information, bribing police, hacking 9,000 phone numbers, gaining access to bank accounts, and using large financial settlements to keep some victims quiet.

How is this, in any way, related to Deer's investigation into the dangerous actions of Andrew Wakefield?

Let's see - Deer didn't fraudulently obtain confidential information (he interviewed someone under what's actually his real name - just not the one he's usually known by), he didn't bribe police, he didn't hack into a phone, he didn't get access to anyone's bank details, and didn't pay anyone off.

Olmsted then tries to claim that, when the information that came from this interview was used in the BMJ feature some years later, it breached trhe BMJ's ethics rules, which read;

"Any article that contains personal medical information about an identifiable living individual requires the patient's explicit consent before we can publish it," according to the policy (italics in original).


Yes. This is why the patient is referred to as "Child 2". I certainly can't identify anyone from that description.

Part two of the feature though has an even more non-world-shaking relelation. Let's see what Olmsted has to say:

As she sat down to write the Sunday Times of London on Saturday, November 29, 2003, Rosemary Kessick was beside herself. The day before, a reporter for the paper named Brian Lawrence had come to her home to interview her – and kept at it, relentlessly, for six straight hours. It was more like an inquisition than an interview.


First of all, I'd like to bring up a point here - although Brian Deer didn't identify any of the children involved in Wakefield's fraudulent study, Olmsted just has. By using the name of the child's mother. Olmsted embellishes the story with emotive words like "inquisition" and "relentless". If it had been that unpleasant, why didn't Ms Kessick ask the reporter, whatever he called himself, to leave, at some point in the six hours? Was it because she wanted to tell her story?

Now, I don't know Brian Deer. I've never met him. I have no opinion on whether he's a nice person or not. I'm certain he can be dogged and determined when it comes to getting information, and making sure that information is accurate. I can imagine that he can be a tough interviewer. That doesn't make him guilty of any breach of journalistic ethics.

Olmsted then publishes an email conference between Ms Kessick, Brian "Lawrence" Deer, and various executives at the Sunday Times. It begins with an email from Ms Kessick complaining to the editor of the Sunday Times about the interview style, claiming that Mr Deer

…displayed arrogance in his own perceived ability and knowledge which when probed, consistently revealed a dangerous bigotry and clear ignorance of the many legal and scientific facts salient to the MMR cases.

…and that he was rude and arrogant. Fair enough.

There's also an email from Mr Deer to Ms Kessick, apologising if he came over at all rude.

A few other emails are reproduced, all of which basically say the same thing - "Brian Deer's not a very nice man and I felt he was rude and overbearing when he came to interview me." (I paraphrase, clearly).

OK - maybe that's so, but since when has "being a nice person" been a prerequisite for being an ethical journalist?

To round off his smear attempt, Olmsted admits that Ms Kessick wasn't even quoted in the original Sunday Times story, the interview was mentioned in a followup article when Mr Deer said he had cooperation from the parents (well - talking to a journalist for six hours sounds like cooperation to me), and quotes were only used in the BMJ article in 2011.

Now, if anyone can find anything in there which compares to the News Of The World hacking into the voicemail of a missing (and as it turned out, murdered) schoolgirl to listen to and delete messages please tell me what it is. If there's any evidence of illegal activity - please point it out to me. Otherwise Olmsted, shut the fuck up.



Edit: 26 July.
Sullivan has also covered this at LeftBrainRightBrain - here - and Brian Deer has left a long comment, putting Olmsted right on a few points.

Tuesday 19 July 2011

John Stone - Vaccines spread AIDS



Anti-vaccine wingnut John Stone



Oh look - famed vaccine wingnut John Stone has finally admitted his paid up membership of the Fucking Loony Party.

This link is possibly the nuttiest thing he's posted - and that's saying something.

Of course, we ought not forget where the Aids epidemic started.


John Stone (who, in case you'd forgotten, is a cock) has linked to a mental "Vaccines Caused AIDS" video on YouTube entitled "Dr. Maurice Hilleman, explains why Merck's vaccines have spread AIDS & other plagues worldwide". It's here. It's also fucking nuts.

In a supposed interview with Dr Maurice Hilleman, it bangs on about the SV40 "monkey virus" - which has never been demonstrated to have any ill effects in humans - in polio vaccine, and then goes on to suppose that AIDS has been spread by vaccines - despite "Hilleman" never suggesting anything of the sort.

Watch the video - then marvel that John "Cock" Stone thinks that this represents evidence that AIDS was spread by vaccines. The man's a fucking loon.

John Stone - Vaccines spread AIDS



Anti-vaccine wingnut John Stone



Oh look - famed vaccine wingnut John Stone has finally admitted his paid up membership of the Fucking Loony Party.

This link is possibly the nuttiest thing he's posted - and that's saying something.

Of course, we ought not forget where the Aids epidemic started.


John Stone (who, in case you'd forgotten, is a cock) has linked to a mental "Vaccines Caused AIDS" video on YouTube entitled "Dr. Maurice Hilleman, explains why Merck's vaccines have spread AIDS & other plagues worldwide". It's here. It's also fucking nuts.

In a supposed interview with Dr Maurice Hilleman, it bangs on about the SV40 "monkey virus" - which has never been demonstrated to have any ill effects in humans - in polio vaccine, and then goes on to suppose that AIDS has been spread by vaccines - despite "Hilleman" never suggesting anything of the sort.

Watch the video - then marvel that John "Cock" Stone thinks that this represents evidence that AIDS was spread by vaccines. The man's a fucking loon.

Wednesday 13 July 2011

Age Of Autism cheers the downfall of News International. How Ironic.

Age of Autism is cheering that News International (which owns the Sunday Times, which first reported Brian Deer's features on Andrew Wakefield's fraud) is in big trouble. How ironic then, that NI owns The Sun, which happily reported anecdote as fact in order to create fear and doubt, and to sell more chip-wrappers.
(www.ageofautism.com/2011/07/crisis-of-ethics-at-news-international-as-james-murdoch-closes-down-the-news-of-the-world.html)

"growing concern of possible links between MMR and autism and bowel disorders have seen a massive drop in the number of parents opting for the treatment. The connection was made by Dr Andrew Wakefield in 1998. No scientists confirmed his findings but many parents say their children changed dramatically after the injection".
(The Sun, 5th Feb, 2002)


And who's doing the trumpeting? Yes, that arsehole John "Cock" Stone. What a fucking shock there, that Stone doesn't know his arse from Rotherham - and couldn't find either with both hands and a map.

A call for violence from AoA?

Kent Heckenlively has posted a rather disturbing piece on Age of Autism, in which he calls on God to smite the vaccine-autism unbelievers (ie, rational people), quoting the Bible (psalm 94) and Stephen King (the Stand) to make his point.

It's not unreasonable to see this as a call to extreme God-Botherers to rise up, and, just in case God's a bit too busy to do all that smiting, give him a helping hand and get some smiting of their own done. After all, God's work needs doing, right?

Am I being a bit extreme? I don't think so - look at the actions of the more extreme pro-life (or, as they should properly be called, anti-women's rights) activists. Murder and arson have been in their arsenal for some time. Why should religious anti-vax loons be any different?

(As ever, Orac has a more eloquent discussion of this…)