Mr Whale on Spanish 'flu

John "Pig Fucker" Scudamore has, predictably, chimed in on Swine 'Flu and Spanish 'Flu.

The only serious so called viral attack, Spanish Flu, was a mass vaccine poisoning. The only way they can get you is if you are unwise enough to take a vaccines, but they have to be careful not to make the vaccine look like the cause.

For anyone who's even considering taking some sort of advice from the JABS forum, this must surely be the final nail in its credibility. Given that the Spanish 'Flu virus has been identified, photographed and recreated - and that there's not a shred of evidence to connect all the dead with a common vaccine, "Pig Fucker" has well and truly shot himself in the foot this time.

Unsurprisingly, he has a page on Whale.to about Swine 'Flu, including the usual conspiracy theories and lies.

Woopee, just like the AIDS virus, a so called 'deadly combination or 3 viruses' that turned out to be harmless, assuming it, HIV, even exists! Just a ploy to get people onto deadly AIDS drugs, and stop the proper treatment of the usual African diseases.

and

Avoid all vaccines, they started the fake AIDS epidemic with a Hepatitis B vaccine. If they cared about viral attack they would be using Vitamin C, Zapper and Ozone, three decades old cures (over no drug cures). But you can't create a panic if no one fears viruses, or sell vaccines and Tamiflu

I hope he gets hit by a bus.

Interestingly...

Since the news that Meningitis cases have fallen massively in the last few years, due to vaccination programmes (BBC News), only one thread has started on JABS on this subject. And it only has two posts, both of which have been today.
( http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4017 )
Both the posts have been by "Jackie" - this may be Jackie Fletcher, although she tends to post as "admin" - and both are simple reposts of the BBC story I've just linked to, and a story in the Independent, both of which are overwhelmingly pro-vaccination.

Shall we start a sweepstake to see how long it takes before there are extra posts from the usual JABS morons, pointing out that this simply proves that the vaccinations aren't required, due to naturally falling levels of meningitis.

I reckon someone - John "Cock" Stone, Gus The Fuss, Truth Seeker or John "Pig Fucker" Scudamore - will try and spin it as an anti-vaccine story.

Truth Seeker, possibly that most ironically named moron, has come up with this splendid untruth:

When it comes to drugs and vaccines i disagree with all sentiment. a sentiment is nothing but a thought, view, or attitude, especially one based mainly on emotion instead of reason.

When the only argument against vaccination is based on appeals to emotion ("Won't somebody think of the babies?!", "There's COW FOETUS in your vaccines", "You'd agree if it was YOUR child!", "YOU HAVEN'T GOT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD, YOU EVIL BASTARD, HENCE YOU CAN HAVE NO OPINION!" etc etc) with no scientific basis, this is deliciously ironic.

Um - Just Say "Twat"

justsayno has made a rather remarkable assertion when it comes to measles:

I was born in 64 and am pretty sure I did't get any vacinnes until I was at least 12 months old. They weren't vaccinating for measles then - my brother (2 years older) caught it and had a complication - it may have slightly impaired his hearing on one side - but he is a professional musician so it wasn't significant.

So, a hearing impairment isn't significant? Especially not for a professional musician?

I have relatives who are professional musicians. I think they'd take exception to that. Obviously in justsayno's world, "musician" isn't a real occupation, and a permanent hearing defect, one that these days could be avoided, isn't a problem.

MORONS! MORONS!

There was just hope left at the bottom…

"Emerald" asks:

I have heard that some surgeries have asked for written withdrawal of consent for the child to have a vaccine/vaccines. Has anyone been asked for this and did you provide it?

I hope so. I really do. I hope my surgery asks for written consent, I hope your surgery asks for written consent to not vaccinate children. I hope surgeries take the lists of those who refuse vaccination to the local paper. I hope the local paper print those lists with the headline "THESE PEOPLE WANT CHILDREN TO DIE!". With pictures. I hope the local schools refuse to deal with them. I hope they get run over by other stupid people in 4x4s. I hope their children get taken into care - where they might get some love and proper healthcare, rather than being abused by neglect by their natural parents and used as some kind of trophy to 'prove' their parents' mental anti-science views. They might have a happy, healthy childhood that way, rather than be subjected to fifty year old "healthcare" (be deliberately introduced to carriers of potentially fatal diseases - hey, it's good for them!) , and suffer (and possibly die, get encephalitis, or be made sterile) by/from measles or mumps.

I don't want unnecessarily unvaccinated children at my daughter's school when she starts in September. I want the parents to be outed, shamed, and put in the stocks for public ridicule and humiliation. I want my daughter, and all other children to be safe and healthy, not put at risk by the likes of "Emerald", Jackie Fletcher, John "Cock" Stone or Gus The Fucking Fuss.

Fucking MONSTERS.

MORONS! MORONS!

Back in the 1980s, there was a popular rôle playing game, called "Tunnels and Trolls". It had a spin off wargame, called "Monsters! Monsters!", which was apparently named from the cries of rôle players when swarms of, um, monsters turned up.

Hence the title of this blog post.

I cry it, every time I read the shit that's posted at JABS, or Childhealthsafety, or AgeOfAutism, or, frankly, anywhere…

The JABSers are crowing over the über-brainless-twat Jenny McCarthy's appearance on the Larry King Show (which I believe is quite popular in the US of A).

The JABS crew are claiming some kind of twisted victory:

See for yourself this remarkable US TV coverage of this issue in full - five parts - many more videos too.
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/larry-king-autism/

Unfortunately for the likes of Clifford "Big Red Cockend" Miller, John "Cock" Stone, Jackie "I want to kill children" Fletcher and the rest of the JABS crew, McCarthy and her cock-end of a boyfriend Jim Carrey managed to make a complete arse of themselves.

Here's a pretty good deconstruction of what was actually said.

Fletcher, Stone, Miller - you can just fuck right off - your USA poster girl has made you all look really, REALLY stupid.

Open and closed mindedness

I've gone on at length about the JABS crowd's use of the phrase "open-minded" and "closed-minded" - here's an excellent YouTube Video (Via the ever-excellent Orac), which everyone at JABS should see.



(My only quibble with it is its repeated use of the phrase "close-minded". "Closed-minded", surely?)

John Scudamore - what a fucking arsehole

JABS has recently become a moderated forum - ie, all posts have to be approved by some kind of "referee", before they appear on the site. Presumably Jackie "I'm happy for kids to die" Fletcher has taken this step to stop the kind of racist, homophobic, anti-semitic, anti-science, conspiracy-driven shit that is symptomatic of the the frothing loons who inhabit the JABS forum.

Good plan.

However, this isn't the case, as can be seen from this post from John "Whale.To" Scudamore;

DDT was behind the polio epdemics, and polio was the label they used to hide that fact. They were spraying it from planes, and up alleyways as they thought it was spread by flies. It got into the milk supply as well.

When they brought out the vaccine they kid the cases under aseptic meningitis, mostly, but there about 20 different terms they hid it under eg

Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome, acute flaccid paralysis.

I was wondering what the fallout from the DDT spraying would be.

If they cared about malaria they would be using Jim Humbles cheap cure. Just like they would use Vitamin C to cure 'infections' such as polio, meningitis etc. Meningits looks to be a poiosn disease anyway

Shall we take this to pieces one step at a time boys and girls? Good. Then we'll begin.

DDT is an insecticide, used to keep down the mosquito population. Wikipedia has quite a good article on it. Polio (or, more accurately, "Poliomyelitis") is a viral infectious disease. A virus. Passed from person to person.

While DDT is nasty stuff, it's not a virus. It's a synthetic chemical. It cannot cause polio, because (are you keeping up here Scudamore?) IT'S NOT A FUCKING VIRUS.

Let's move on. Meningitis is inflammation of the protective membranes covering the brain and spinal cord. Again, Wikipedia has a good, not-too-scientific layman's piece on it. It's not polio, and wouldn't be confused with it. Also - it's a condition, not a specific disease. It has several causes. It's not just poisoning.

Malaria is an infectious disease caused by protozoan parasites, transmitted by insects - mosquitoes usually. Those same mosquitoes that DDT is used to control.

These are three completely separate diseases / conditions. Vitamin C will not cure any of them. They are not similar (other than all being potentially lethal).

However, morons like Scudamore (and others on the JABS forum) prefer to believe that all three are different names for the same thing, and has been spread deliberately by governments, the Elders of Zion, or the Bavarian Illuminati.

You can laugh at Scudamore for being an insane whackjob, but his ideas on vaccination are as bad as Stone, Fletcher, MV and Hilary "Liar" Butler. They will, if taken to their logical conclusion, lead to children dying. That, in my book, is attempted murder, and they all want locking up.

Please, read this

This isn't about JABS. This is a link to a post on ScienceBlogs by "Orac".

http://tinyurl.com/jennymccathyisamoron.

It just brings together so many anti-vax lies, and then points and laughs at them.

They're American, but those arguments happen at JABS. Jackie Fletcher, John Stone et al, please read this, then explain here why the article doesn't blow your article out of the water. You murderous bastards.