Thursday, 2 April 2009

John Scudamore - what a fucking arsehole

JABS has recently become a moderated forum - ie, all posts have to be approved by some kind of "referee", before they appear on the site. Presumably Jackie "I'm happy for kids to die" Fletcher has taken this step to stop the kind of racist, homophobic, anti-semitic, anti-science, conspiracy-driven shit that is symptomatic of the the frothing loons who inhabit the JABS forum.

Good plan.

However, this isn't the case, as can be seen from this post from John "Whale.To" Scudamore;

DDT was behind the polio epdemics, and polio was the label they used to hide that fact. They were spraying it from planes, and up alleyways as they thought it was spread by flies. It got into the milk supply as well.

When they brought out the vaccine they kid the cases under aseptic meningitis, mostly, but there about 20 different terms they hid it under eg

Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome, acute flaccid paralysis.

I was wondering what the fallout from the DDT spraying would be.

If they cared about malaria they would be using Jim Humbles cheap cure. Just like they would use Vitamin C to cure 'infections' such as polio, meningitis etc. Meningits looks to be a poiosn disease anyway


Shall we take this to pieces one step at a time boys and girls? Good. Then we'll begin.

DDT is an insecticide, used to keep down the mosquito population. Wikipedia has quite a good article on it. Polio (or, more accurately, "Poliomyelitis") is a viral infectious disease. A virus. Passed from person to person.

While DDT is nasty stuff, it's not a virus. It's a synthetic chemical. It cannot cause polio, because (are you keeping up here Scudamore?) IT'S NOT A FUCKING VIRUS.

Let's move on. Meningitis is inflammation of the protective membranes covering the brain and spinal cord. Again, Wikipedia has a good, not-too-scientific layman's piece on it. It's not polio, and wouldn't be confused with it. Also - it's a condition, not a specific disease. It has several causes. It's not just poisoning.

Malaria is an infectious disease caused by protozoan parasites, transmitted by insects - mosquitoes usually. Those same mosquitoes that DDT is used to control.

These are three completely separate diseases / conditions. Vitamin C will not cure any of them. They are not similar (other than all being potentially lethal).

However, morons like Scudamore (and others on the JABS forum) prefer to believe that all three are different names for the same thing, and has been spread deliberately by governments, the Elders of Zion, or the Bavarian Illuminati.

You can laugh at Scudamore for being an insane whackjob, but his ideas on vaccination are as bad as Stone, Fletcher, MV and Hilary "Liar" Butler. They will, if taken to their logical conclusion, lead to children dying. That, in my book, is attempted murder, and they all want locking up.

6 comments:

millipede said...

I like the way they make these ridiculous assertions as if they must be true, not even bothering with a link to whale.to.

Viruses, pesticides, diseases, inflammation, parasites, these people couldn't care less about the differences, their thinking is so muddled they don't even have a coherent set of beliefs, besides "Vaccination is bad".

John H said...

A first class wackaloon.

(You really do need to see the latest magazine: "Medical Wackaloon Monthly" available at:

http://hellsnewsstand.blogspot.com/2009/03/medical-wackaloon-monthly.html

Even using Wikipedia for research it would appear that DDT was """First synthesized in 1874, DDT's insecticidal properties were not discovered until 1939""".

And polio has been around for how long exactly ? I am no medical historian but I reckon it was well before 1939.

So it would indeed appear that Scudamore is a fucking arsehole. QED.

Amanti Howard said...

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/09/the-age-of-polio-how-an-old-virus-and-new-toxins-triggered-a-man-made-epidemic.html

Becky said...

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/09/mark_blaxill_and_dan_olmsted_polio.php

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/09/mark_blaxill_and_dan_olmsted_merrily_con.php

...and an informed look as to why Olmsted and Blaxhill are spouting what can only politely be termed as "shit".

Amanti Howard said...

Nothing informed about Scienceblogs - load of tripe.

Anthemius said...

"While DDT is nasty stuff, it's not a virus. It's a synthetic chemical. It cannot cause polio, because (are you keeping up here Scudamore?) IT'S NOT A FUCKING VIRUS."

This is not an argument until you define what "cause" means - and no sensible definition of it will assist you here.

I have no idea if DDT causes or does not cause polio, nor is whether it does or not relevant to what I'm about to say - my claim is that your defence is idiotic and adds nothing whatsoever to the debate. And, unfortunately, I'm not your typical defender of these theories, I'm not an scientifically ignorant dreamer with tattoos and nose rings who goes on about global warming, but in fact have a PhD in engineering.

You really need to understand that the body is a SYSTEM, with many interconnecting elements and sub-systems and levels of causality, and that this kind of simplistic reasoning when analysing systems (my job) is utterly useless.

Has it occurred to you that DDT might bring about a condition that makes people susceptible to the polio virus who would not have been otherwise?

If someone is an alcoholic and their liver function falls dramatically and so they die from a cut while chopping vegetables because the liver does not make enough clotting proteins, say, then according to your argument the alcoholism did not cause the death right?

The fact that it created an environment in which an otherwise harmful cut causes death is not relevant - alcoholism cannot be said to "cause" this death from bleeding because it is "not a fucking knife"? This is your position right?

Or imagine I put petrol instead of diesel in my car because my mate swapped around the nozzles in the petrol station and then the petrol clogged one of the parts built for diesel.

By your argument, my friend did not cause the part to fail and my car to stop moving because "he is not fucking petrol".

Do you agree with these positions? If not why not? And how does your response sit with your initial argument?