A new form of immunisation!

Obviously medical science is missing a trick. "aobbard" writes;

When I was a child my sister had mumps.
My mum put me in the same bed so that it caught it too.
I never did.
Perhaps it was enough to give me immunity???!

Sigh. Does the idiocy never stop?

EMF rubbish and top quality witty banter

There's a poster on JABS by the name of "Suba". He (she?)'s obviously a little narked that wingnuts like Gus The Fuss and Truth Seeker are garnering all the plaudits for "most deranged poster of the week", and so has gone for it in a big way. Suba's personal gripe is EMF and mobile phones.

Preadolescent children are particularly vulnerable because absorption of GSM microwaves is greatest in an object about the size of a child’s head, due to the “head resonance” effect. This is also why 900 MHz cordless phones are not safe, even though they aren’t transmitting all the time.

Suba also repeats the misconception that Einstein said something about bees. When it's pointed out that this isn't true, he retorts in the wittiest of fashions…

Thomas P I am not going down to your level of scum. Inbred primate.

When this is quoted to him, he cunningly edits his post (the JABS forum software kindly points out when a post has been edited) to accuse "Thomas P" of misquoting him…

Frankly, it's a bit like being back in infant school again.

Irony

To some people, "irony" is like "silvery", or "coppery" - it's just a different metal. Our friend Truth Seeker obviously falls into this category.

Given that the arguments given by anti-vaxxers tend to be of the "listen to the mothers!" and "you're injecting poison into TINY BABIES!" type, this quote is splendidly ironic;

Parents whio question vaccines will only listen to honest scientific evidence, not tomfoolfery emotional blackmail guilt trips, they do not work on us.

i reject your ethics of emotional blackmail and think parents who question vaccinations are educated while those that jab away without question are foolish and ignorant.

I can just see him banging his little fist on a table (and possibly eating a banana) as he typed this.

Hocus Pocus, Bees and Locusts

Courtesy of that dribbling fool "Truth Seeker":

Why is becky so anti things just because there is no scientific explantion as to how they work?

Its in the realms of quantum physics/energy matter and maybe some people are just happy to use things that work and dont care how it works.

Personally anyone who supports such genocide and iatrogenic death as occam would be classed as insane compared to a belief in vibrational medicine.

"Quantum"; the last resort of the desperate man who hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

("Genocide" is one of Truth Seeker's favourite words. He flings it around as an accusation rather a lot, despite not knowing what it actually means.)

Ooh - population reduction paranoia!

To make up for missing a day, here's a spectacular example of paranoia and conspiracy theory posted a bit earlier on today, by "Suba".

Do not vaccinate your child. This muppet wants you to vaccinate your child even though he/she may suffer anaphylactic shock due to Neomycin. This coming from a pharma operative unmasks their true agenda: population reduction by way of extra profits due to increased illness requiring untested medicine.

Woo! Big Pharma are trying to KILL US ALL!!!

Words fail me…

I'm beginning to believe that some people really are controlled by goblins in their head. Consider this gem from "oscars mum";

Perhaps one day we could be treated with placebos instead of drugs and not have to suffer side effects!

I really hope there are no sharp objects in her house. Or anything with moving parts.

It's not just vaccines

Some of the more excitable posters at JABS aren't just worried about MMR, or even about vaccines generally. Oh no. Anything else goes. Politicians. Water fluoridation (or, more often than not, 'flouride'). EMF. Or, if you're lucky, all three. From "aobbard" - who has quite a thing for fluoride...

It is all very scary that these people have so much control over our lives. Not much different to the Mddle Ages excepet the death is just more subtle and lingering.
What I don't understnd is, that these things affect their own families. A certain MP has an autistic child and yet he claims never to have heard of EMR (electromagnetic radiation) and is in favour of water fluoridation. Both are linked to autism/adhd.
Is it just plain ignorance or something more sinister?

I'd suggest "paranoia".

Most of the time, it's possible to work out what a poster on Jabs is saying, or what train of thought led them to make some ridiculous statement or other, but this one has got me completely baffled. (Again, from the delightful Gus The Fuss).

Ocamm Ye All faithful to big pharma ,
How cheap how Chubby cheap cheeps !

end of i presume

Nnnno. Still haven't got a clue.

Complete cretins

There's a bloke who posts on JABS under the name of "Cybertiger". He's already posted comments on this blog, showing what a twat he is.

His real name is Dr Mark Struthers, and he's a GP. Really. He's a doctor. You know, the kind of person that you take yourself to, or your children to when they're not very well. If you're in Flitwick, Bedfordshire, he might even be your doctor.

His website's here.

He's a moron. I've never been quite sure whether he's against vaccinations or not. He is, quite clearly, worried about a couple of things; statins, and a man by the name of Professor Sir Roy Meadow.

When he posts on JABS, he manages to make himself look even stupider than he presumably is, by denying (and then trying to wriggle out of his denial) all kinds of accepted medical facts. AIDS, for example. During a discussion, where several members of the forum were denying the fact that HIV causes AIDS, Dr Struthers announces;

Why on earth should I think this anti-AIDS stuff is far fetched or even dangerous?

OK, a GP who doesn't believe that AIDS/HIV denialism is a bad thing. HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET???

This man should be struck off now.

I'll be posting more of his idiotic comments over the next few weeks.

Toxic blood

This shows the extremely high levels of medical knowledge available at JABS, courtesy of a delightful individual by the name of "GUS THE FUSS". It's one of his more coherent outbursts.

Tetanusis only dangerous when blood is not shown on the wound as human blood is toxic

I should mention, if anyone has any particular JABS favourites, do let me know and I'll see if I can reprise them.

Let's start with a good one

Is it that why you hate homeopathy with such zeal, we cant compete in the death stakes with you can we.Homeopathy killed none allopahic medicine must have killed more than all the wars in the last hundred years. Thats tens of millions over the last 50 years.Defend that you inhumane clone.

This is from a forum member who calls himself "Truth Seeker". You'll come to know and love him and his interesting outlook on life in the coming months.

It's all going very well so far

Hi. My name's Rebecca, although I'm going to post here as "Becky". That's what most of my friends call me. To be honest, that's what a lot of people who don't like me call me too.

They're the nice ones.

Why am I starting this weblog? Well... Have you got a few minutes?

I'm the mother of a little girl. I'm not going to give her name out here, but if I ever need to refer to her, I'll call her "the tiny person".

She was coming up for her MMR vaccine, and I'd read scary stuff about MMR, so I thought I'd research it a bit more closely.

I came across an internet forum called "JABS" - "Justice Awareness and Basic Support" (they didn't have the decency to put a comma in there...)

It claims to support the parents of vaccine damaged children. I joined the forum, hoping to discover more useful information about MMR.

I should say, right now, that before I had the tiny person, I spent a lot of time looking at, and "researching" conspiricy theory websites. The real lunatic fringe - 9/11 (or 11/9 as we Brits like to think of it) was a US Government Plot, Chemtrails, Free Energy... Loonies, the lot of them.

However, I wanted to know more about MMR and the supposed links to autism, and this group seemed to be supporting parents of kids who'd been definitely, *definitely* damaged by the MMR.

Whooooaaahhh!!!!

Obviously, I did other reading, rather than just a parents group. I did a lot of research. I have a fairly heavy science background, so I've got a pretty good idea about what constitutes good evidence, and what constitutes rubbish.

The forum at JABS is populated by the worst kind (remember, I've met some nutters online) of shit-for-brains mentalist. I mean, real "heads down no-nonsense mindless WOOOOOO!!!!" idiots.

The scary thing is, the BBC links to the site whenever there's a story in the news about the "MMR Controversy".

So. The purpose of this weblog is to show quite how batshit bonkers the JABS forum is, by posting a (hopefully) daily quote from one of its regular contributors.

I'm sure one or more of the regular contributors at JABS will point out that I used to be a regular contributor to JABS, but was banned. This is true. I've emailed the site administrator (a lady by the name of Jackie Fletcher) to ask why, but she won't reply to me.

Anyway, I've banged on for long enough, now I should post some examples of the utter stupidity that is JABS...